krait: dark-skinned alien in armour (Foreigner - security)
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If you have discussion points for Chapters 1-2 you wish to bring up but which include spoilers, please post them here. Then link your comment in the general post, so those who want to avoid being spoiled can do so!

Date: 2011-06-08 01:00 pm (UTC)
cheyinka: An ateva riding a mecheita through the snow. (atevi)
From: [personal profile] cheyinka
I dunno how much closer to humans they are - sure, they might feel man'chi for everyone, but I always read it more like they were humans who thought humans should feel brotherly affection for every other human - "So you have man'chi to the aiji? Even lunatics have that. I say to you, have man'chi for those who despise you and act stupidly." or something. :D

Date: 2011-06-09 02:44 am (UTC)
cheyinka: An ateva riding a mecheita through the snow. (atevi)
From: [personal profile] cheyinka
But it should be an Army of Two, shouldn't it, since Assassins work in pairs? Of course, two is an infelicitous number...

We do get some hints of it in Deliverer and the two books after that, as Cajeiri's Taiben associates start preparing to learn how to be proper security staff.

What I mean about the man'chi-to-everyone thing is that as it stands right now, atevi can rationalize human behavior by saying that, okay, they don't say they feel man'chi, but they respect the treaty with Tabini-aiji and his predecessors, so that's close enough - but if atevi society did the have-man'chi-to-everyone thing, there'd be atevi trying to get humans to do, I guess, "individual treaties", rather than just being linked to the aiji, and that'd go pretty badly, since we just don't feel that emotion.

Date: 2011-06-14 09:38 pm (UTC)
cheyinka: A picture of a Metroid made to look like an engraving (engraved Metroid)
From: [personal profile] cheyinka
Recruitment poster idea:

some lord with one bodyguard and a dotted outline on the lord's other side - "The Guild wants YOU to make this group a felicitous number!"

Date: 2011-06-15 03:33 am (UTC)
cheyinka: A picture of a Metroid made to look like an engraving (engraved Metroid)
From: [personal profile] cheyinka
Me too. Though, if the cover of Foreigner had an ateva in Bren's place, one of the two atevi behind him could be turned into a dotted outline...

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