1. Bren seems really isolated from human society -- he mentions one brother(doesn't discuss contacting him), and that he sends very uninformative letters to his mother, and that his father is estranged; his superiors might start missing him if he doesn't call for a fortnight; his affairs are brief and no-strings sorts from women not wanting or expecting more.
Human society doesn't seem all that attached to him, either -- his superiors wouldn't raise any fuss if he vanished mysteriously and was never heard from again, there's no mention of his brother or father possibly contacting him, and his successor, Hanks, pretty clearly isn't his friend, so if he has friends in the department we haven't seen them.
Does this really put him in a good position to be paidhi? If you were a Mospheiran, wouldn't you want the person representing you to the Big Scary Aliens to be a guy you knew, had some influence with, and could be pretty sure was on your side? ...So does the position really go to the most linguistically gifted, NO other criteria involved?
2. Malguri: wow. Especially for a spacefaring populace, the sheer age of the place probably is overwhelming! I was awed when Bren thought that it had been built before humans achieved spaceflight (or, at least, habitable colonies/residential space stations, depending on how you want to interpret that line).
Then I got thinky, and started wondering if this is a relatively near-future SF novel/space exploration isn't that far beyond what it is now. It might explain why Phoenix was carrying so many top-talent people and so much by way of historical records.
Edit: Just checked something I vaguely remembered, and in Book One I found this: They'd been screened, their skills had been tested, they'd had to have recommendations atop recommendations even to come close to this job. They didn't send foul-ups on a ship that carried Earth's whole damned colonial program, and disasters didn't happen to a mission as important as this one.
So the Phoenix was humanity's FIRST colony ship! So the atevi may well be their first encounter with a nonhuman intelligence...
Very polite reception Bren gets at first, despite being the only human ever to travel so far inland; loved the housekeeper asking Bren to sign in Mosphei' as well as Ragi. :D Bren's apartment sounds lovely, too, despite the unpromising corridor he traversed to reach it!
3. Ilisidi! I notice that she scares (well, "commands") Bren... but he still argues with her five seconds later. :D I love the mental image of Bren in the oversized chair with his arms about his knees, ready to duck if her cane comes his way! ♥ Bren, never stop being so adorable. (Don't stop being ready to duck, either.)
Ilisidi's conversational tactics make that little verbal wrangle Bren had with Jago look tame! For an ateva, she's shockingly rude, too -- she slanders him personally ("gambling... sex with the servants... perversion"), and humans (and paidhiin) generally destroying an antique tea set. Bren keeps wondering if she's mad, despite noting several proofs that she's both sane and well aware of the wider world; cognitive dissonance, because sane atevi just don't act that way?
4. Poisoned tea! Poor Bren. (My innards start hurting in sympathy just reading about his reaction!) Interesting, though, that he instinctively trusts Banichi when he's ill, and instinctively distrusts Cenedi (well, instinctively thinks Cenedi is Guild, and dangerous).
1) You're right, you'd think the paidhi should at least have close ties to the culture he's representing with the atevi, wouldn't you? Hmm.
2) I had totally missed that Phoenix was humanity's first colony ship. Huh. It's definitely not the Alliance/Union universe, then. (If Bren meant regular spaceflight instead of "first human in space", it's even later than 3800 right now, though.)
And yeah, quite a cliffhanger - falling asleep (or into a coma?) after meeting the awesome Ilisidi.
Bren seems really isolated from human society He does, and it's one of the reason I find it hard to relate to him, the more so when we learn towards the end of the story how little interest he has in spending time with his family or semi-girlfriend/fuckbuddy - he really just wants to be all by himself :o/
So the Phoenix was humanity's FIRST colony ship! Unless I misunderstand you, I disagree - c.f. e.g.:
Humans explored and intruded against [the silence of the universe], and built their stations […]
[…] the first-built trading station to develop down this chain of stars, Earths latest and most confident colonial commitment, with all the expertise of past successes.
So it seems more like Earth's "colonial commitments" were one at a time, and with (much)FTL travel not generation ships, either - but it doesn't seem like there's FTL communication, so Earth must not expect to hear back from its colonies right away. (Cherryh's FTL seems to be "cross a fold in space" FTL rather than "go really, really fast" FTL, so it's not a matter of a hundred years passing for Earth between sending and arriving, at least.) Still, you have to wonder if Earth is wondering what happened to the Phoenix!
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Human society doesn't seem all that attached to him, either -- his superiors wouldn't raise any fuss if he vanished mysteriously and was never heard from again, there's no mention of his brother or father possibly contacting him, and his successor, Hanks, pretty clearly isn't his friend, so if he has friends in the department we haven't seen them.
Does this really put him in a good position to be paidhi? If you were a Mospheiran, wouldn't you want the person representing you to the Big Scary Aliens to be a guy you knew, had some influence with, and could be pretty sure was on your side? ...So does the position really go to the most linguistically gifted, NO other criteria involved?
2. Malguri: wow. Especially for a spacefaring populace, the sheer age of the place probably is overwhelming! I was awed when Bren thought that it had been built before humans achieved spaceflight (or, at least, habitable colonies/residential space stations, depending on how you want to interpret that line).
Then I got thinky, and started wondering if this is a relatively near-future SF novel/space exploration isn't that far beyond what it is now. It might explain why Phoenix was carrying so many top-talent people and so much by way of historical records.
Edit: Just checked something I vaguely remembered, and in Book One I found this: They'd been screened, their skills had been tested, they'd had to have recommendations atop recommendations even to come close to this job. They didn't send foul-ups on a ship that carried Earth's whole damned colonial program, and disasters didn't happen to a mission as important as this one.
So the Phoenix was humanity's FIRST colony ship! So the atevi may well be their first encounter with a nonhuman intelligence...
Very polite reception Bren gets at first, despite being the only human ever to travel so far inland; loved the housekeeper asking Bren to sign in Mosphei' as well as Ragi. :D Bren's apartment sounds lovely, too, despite the unpromising corridor he traversed to reach it!
3. Ilisidi! I notice that she scares (well, "commands") Bren... but he still argues with her five seconds later. :D I love the mental image of Bren in the oversized chair with his arms about his knees, ready to duck if her cane comes his way! ♥ Bren, never stop being so adorable. (Don't stop being ready to duck, either.)
Ilisidi's conversational tactics make that little verbal wrangle Bren had with Jago look tame! For an ateva, she's shockingly rude, too -- she slanders him personally ("gambling... sex with the servants... perversion"), and humans (and paidhiin) generally destroying an antique tea set. Bren keeps wondering if she's mad, despite noting several proofs that she's both sane and well aware of the wider world; cognitive dissonance, because sane atevi just don't act that way?
4. Poisoned tea! Poor Bren. (My innards start hurting in sympathy just reading about his reaction!) Interesting, though, that he instinctively trusts Banichi when he's ill, and instinctively distrusts Cenedi (well, instinctively thinks Cenedi is Guild, and dangerous).
What a cliffhanger to end a reading on! :D
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2) I had totally missed that Phoenix was humanity's first colony ship. Huh. It's definitely not the Alliance/Union universe, then. (If Bren meant regular spaceflight instead of "first human in space", it's even later than 3800 right now, though.)
And yeah, quite a cliffhanger - falling asleep (or into a coma?) after meeting
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He does, and it's one of the reason I find it hard to relate to him, the more so when we learn towards the end of the story how little interest he has in spending time with his family or semi-girlfriend/fuckbuddy - he really just wants to be all by himself :o/
Unless I misunderstand you, I disagree - c.f. e.g.:
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I bet they're wondering, back wherever-the-heck-Earth-is, where their ship full of expensive specialists went! :D